Discussion:
ReactOS Alternative to Microsoft Windows Under Development
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Tecknomage
2013-09-26 17:07:20 UTC
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FYI
ReactOS free (open source) alternative to Microsoft Windows
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReactOS
http://www.reactos.org/
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
2013-09-26 17:17:13 UTC
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:07:20 -0700, "Tecknomage"
<***@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote in article
<***@4ax.com>...

Spam, multi-posted to 5+ groups.
VanguardLH
2013-09-26 18:58:41 UTC
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Post by Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:07:20 -0700, "Tecknomage"
Spam, multi-posted to 5+ groups.
ReactOS is a Windows 2000 clone but he posts in a Vista newsgroup
instead of the microsoft.public.win2000.general newsgroup.
Zaphod Beeblebrox
2013-09-26 20:34:18 UTC
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Post by VanguardLH
Post by Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:07:20 -0700, "Tecknomage"
Spam, multi-posted to 5+ groups.
ReactOS is a Windows 2000 clone but he posts in a Vista newsgroup
instead of the microsoft.public.win2000.general newsgroup.
Indeed - and multi-posted (instead of cross-posted) to 4 other
newsgroups where it is only peripherally relevant, and only contains a
teaser line and a couple of links. That equals spam, in my book.
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David H. Lipman
2013-09-26 22:14:48 UTC
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Post by Zaphod Beeblebrox
Post by VanguardLH
Post by Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:07:20 -0700, "Tecknomage"
Spam, multi-posted to 5+ groups.
ReactOS is a Windows 2000 clone but he posts in a Vista newsgroup
instead of the microsoft.public.win2000.general newsgroup.
Indeed - and multi-posted (instead of cross-posted) to 4 other
newsgroups where it is only peripherally relevant, and only contains a
teaser line and a couple of links. That equals spam, in my book.
It is: ***@easynews.com
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Tecknomage
2013-09-27 15:08:35 UTC
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:34:18 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
<***@gmail.com> wrote:

Q> On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:58:41 -0500, "VanguardLH" <***@nguard.LH> wrote in
Q> article <l2204v$okd$***@news.albasani.net>...
Q> >
Q> > Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Q> >
Q> > > On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:07:20 -0700, "Tecknomage"
Q> > > <***@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote in article
Q> > > <***@4ax.com>...
Q> > >
Q> > > Spam, multi-posted to 5+ groups.
Q> >
Q> > ReactOS is a Windows 2000 clone but he posts in a Vista newsgroup
Q> > instead of the microsoft.public.win2000.general newsgroup.
Q>
Q> Indeed - and multi-posted (instead of cross-posted) to 4 other
Q> newsgroups where it is only peripherally relevant, and only contains a
Q> teaser line and a couple of links. That equals spam, in my book.

Not if you bothered to use the links. My original message was a
heads-up to all Windows groups to let everyone know ReactOS existed.

If you had gone to the ReactOS link....

"ReactOS® is a free open source operating system based on the best
design principles found in the Windows NT® architecture (Windows
versions such as Windows XP, Windows 7, Windows Server 2012 are built
on Windows NT architecture). Written completely from scratch, ReactOS
is not a Linux based system, and shares none of the UNIX architecture.

The main goal of the ReactOS® project is to provide an operating
system which is binary compatible with Windows. This will allow your
Windows® applications and drivers to run as they would on your Windows
system. Additionally, the look and feel of the Windows operating
system is used, such that people accustomed to the familiar user
interface of Windows® would find using ReactOS straightforward. The
ultimate goal of ReactOS® is to allow you to use it as alternative to
Windows® without the need to change software you are used to.

ReactOS 0.3.15 is still in alpha stage, meaning it is not
feature-complete and is recommended only for evaluation and testing
purposes."
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
2013-09-27 17:40:24 UTC
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 08:08:35 -0700, "Tecknomage"
Post by Tecknomage
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:34:18 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
Q> >
Q> >
Q> > > On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:07:20 -0700, "Tecknomage"
Q> > >
Q> > > Spam, multi-posted to 5+ groups.
Q> >
Q> > ReactOS is a Windows 2000 clone but he posts in a Vista newsgroup
Q> > instead of the microsoft.public.win2000.general newsgroup.
Q>
Q> Indeed - and multi-posted (instead of cross-posted) to 4 other
Q> newsgroups where it is only peripherally relevant, and only contains a
Q> teaser line and a couple of links. That equals spam, in my book.
Not if you bothered to use the links. My original message was a
heads-up to all Windows groups to let everyone know ReactOS existed.
Still multi-posted instead of crossposted,
still not directly relevant to the groups
(*especially* since it is still in "alpha stage")
Still spam.
Post by Tecknomage
If you had gone to the ReactOS link....
I don't go to spammed links.
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Tecknomage
2013-09-30 16:33:36 UTC
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:40:24 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
<***@gmail.com> wrote:

Q> On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 08:08:35 -0700, "Tecknomage"
Q> <***@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote in article
Q> <***@4ax.com>...
Q> >
Q> > On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:34:18 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
Q> > <***@gmail.com> wrote:
Q> >
Q> > Q> On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:58:41 -0500, "VanguardLH" <***@nguard.LH> wrote in
Q> > Q> article <l2204v$okd$***@news.albasani.net>...
Q> > Q> >
Q> > Q> > Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
Q> > Q> >
Q> > Q> > > On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:07:20 -0700, "Tecknomage"
Q> > Q> > > <***@NOSPAM.invalid> wrote in article
Q> > Q> > > <***@4ax.com>...
Q> > Q> > >
Q> > Q> > > Spam, multi-posted to 5+ groups.
Q> > Q> >
Q> > Q> > ReactOS is a Windows 2000 clone but he posts in a Vista newsgroup
Q> > Q> > instead of the microsoft.public.win2000.general newsgroup.
Q> > Q>
Q> > Q> Indeed - and multi-posted (instead of cross-posted) to 4 other
Q> > Q> newsgroups where it is only peripherally relevant, and only contains a
Q> > Q> teaser line and a couple of links. That equals spam, in my book.
Q> >
Q> > Not if you bothered to use the links. My original message was a
Q> > heads-up to all Windows groups to let everyone know ReactOS existed.
Q> >
Q>
Q> Still multi-posted instead of crossposted,
Q> still not directly relevant to the groups
Q> (*especially* since it is still in "alpha stage")
Q> Still spam.
Q>

My eMail client does not easily allow corssposting, which is why I
posted the way I did.

A possible MS Windows alternative "not directly relevant" to Windows
groups? Really? Especially as a heads-up to Windows users who may be
interested that ReactOS exists and want to keep an eye on development.

There ARE people who like to know about developments in Operator
Systems. I'm a retired Computer Specialist and IT Technician (30+yrs)
and keep an eye out on such things.


OT: I have a Ubuntu Linux Laptop which I got pre-retirement just to
see how Linux works. Linux IS a better OS than MS Windows.


Q> > If you had gone to the ReactOS link....
Q>
Q> I don't go to spammed links.

Your loss.
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
2013-10-01 12:50:14 UTC
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On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 09:33:36 -0700, "Tecknomage"
Post by Tecknomage
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:40:24 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
Post by Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 08:08:35 -0700, "Tecknomage"
Post by Tecknomage
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:34:18 -0400, Zaphod Beeblebrox
Post by Zaphod Beeblebrox
Post by VanguardLH
Post by Zaphod Beeblebrox
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:07:20 -0700, "Tecknomage"
Spam, multi-posted to 5+ groups.
ReactOS is a Windows 2000 clone but he posts in a
Vista newsgroup instead of the
microsoft.public.win2000.general newsgroup.
Indeed - and multi-posted (instead of cross-posted) to 4 other
newsgroups where it is only peripherally relevant, and
onlycontains a teaser line and a couple of links. That equals
spam, in mybook.
Not if you bothered to use the links. My original message was a
heads-up to all Windows groups to let everyone know ReactOS existed.
Still multi-posted instead of crossposted, still not directly
relevant to the groups (*especially* since it is still in "alpha
stage") Still spam.
My eMail client does not easily allow corssposting, which is why I
posted the way I did.
So, your client *is* capable, you are just too lazy to do it the right
way. Right, sorted.

If you are too lazy to use your current client properly, then get a new
client that makes it easier on you - especially since it seems to have
a really bad idea of how to properly quote from previous articles.
Post by Tecknomage
A possible MS Windows alternative "not directly relevant" to Windows
groups? Really? Especially as a heads-up to Windows users who may be
interested that ReactOS exists and want to keep an eye on development.
A half-baked clone of an old version of Windows is not relevant to
later versions of Windows. Just like it would not be relevant for me to
post about Windows 2000 in a Vista group, it is inappropriate to post
about ReactOS in a Vista group.
Post by Tecknomage
There ARE people who like to know about developments in Operator
Systems. I'm a retired Computer Specialist and IT Technician (30+yrs)
and keep an eye out on such things.
Then do so in the correct group. alt.comp.os.windows-2000 is likely the
only remotely related Windows group. Off the top of my head,
comp.os.misc would be another related group, there may be others. It is
up to you to find them, not me.
<snip junk even further OT>
Post by Tecknomage
Post by Zaphod Beeblebrox
Post by Tecknomage
If you had gone to the ReactOS link....
I don't go to spammed links.
Your loss.
Nope, no loss here - I'm completely uninterested in an OS that is thus
far failing in its attempt to mimic a more than decade old OS. I
*might* be interested in an OS that is attempting to mimic a more
modern version of Windows - but probably not if it is failing.
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the Second, my grandfather Zaphod Beeblebrox the Third..."

"What?"

"There was an accident with a contraceptive and a time machine. Now
concentrate!"
David H. Lipman
2013-09-28 11:18:18 UTC
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Post by Tecknomage
Not if you bothered to use the links. My original message was a
heads-up to all Windows groups to let everyone know ReactOS existed.
Your original message was spam.

When you Multi-Post the same text or essentially the same text to multiple news groups it
is spam. If you felt this information warranted dissemination it should have been
Cross-Posted to no more than 5 or six news groups. If the subject matter is Off Topic
then the subject of said Cross-Posted message should have "OT:" prepended to the subject.
In this case it was Off Topic subject matter as the subject matter did not specifically
pertain the the OS discussed in each of the news groups you posted to.

As it was, you Multi-Posted message was spam and spam won't be tolerated.

Please learn friom this and please do NOT do it again !
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Tecknomage
2013-09-30 16:36:40 UTC
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On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 07:18:18 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

Q> From: "Tecknomage" <***@NOSPAM.invalid>
Q>
Q> >
Q> > Not if you bothered to use the links. My original message was a
Q> > heads-up to all Windows groups to let everyone know ReactOS existed.
Q> >
Q>
Q> Your original message was spam.
Q>
Q> When you Multi-Post the same text or essentially the same text to multiple news groups it
Q> is spam. If you felt this information warranted dissemination it should have been
Q> Cross-Posted to no more than 5 or six news groups. If the subject matter is Off Topic
Q> then the subject of said Cross-Posted message should have "OT:" prepended to the subject.
Q> In this case it was Off Topic subject matter as the subject matter did not specifically
Q> pertain the the OS discussed in each of the news groups you posted to.
Q>
Q> As it was, you Multi-Posted message was spam and spam won't be tolerated.
Q>
Q> Please learn friom this and please do NOT do it again !


Gee.... Nice to know you dictate standards for News Groups. When were
you elected to your post?
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David H. Lipman
2013-09-30 17:57:17 UTC
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Post by Tecknomage
Gee.... Nice to know you dictate standards for News Groups. When were
you elected to your post?
I have been on Usenet for twenty years and I have read numerous News Group
FAQs and Charters. I have read "FAQ: Current Usenet spam thresholds and
guidelines" and do my best to ab ide by FAQs, Charters and Usenet Etiquette
set in RFCs.

Archive-name: usenet/spam-faq
Posting-Frequency: weekly
Last-modified: 1998/11/10

Which states...
Excessive Multi-Posting (EMP) has the same meaning as the term "spam"
usually carries, but it is more accurate and self-explanatory. EMP means,
essentially, "too many separate copies of a substantively identical
article."

"Substantively identical" means that the material in each article is
sufficiently similar to construe the same message. The signature is
included in the determination. These are examples of substantively
identical articles:

- byte-for-byte identical messages
- otherwise identical postings minimally customized for
each group it appears in.
- advertising the same service.
- articles that consist solely of the same signature
- articles which consist of inclusions of other user's
postings, but are otherwise identical.

So don't attack me for telling you long established and published Usenet
standards. Heed the message, not attack it !

While I am at it...
RFCs on Usenet etiquette and standards dictate thatr A Usenet signature
start with a signature delimeter "-- " and should not exceed four lines
after the delimter. Yours exceeds that by one line.
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